所以第五级领导者是这样一种人，我们不能只专注于他们的外在层面，比如他们是否谦逊、是否害羞、或是魅力四射。
So the level five is someone , we don 't want to sort of get caught up on the fact , that they are necessarily , self-effacing , necessarily shy , that they necessarily have a charisma by-pass .
第五级领导者